One of our most popular questions continues to be on the subject of combining exercise programs. Many have asked us, Will GMB be releasing a super parallettes/rings/floor one/prasara hybrid program? And the answer is, probably not. Ryan explains why, below:
Still not convinced? Or, agree wholeheartedly? What are your thoughts? Share below!
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It’s hard to wrap my head around things though. I can kinda see why you don’t wanna add together multiple programs, but I don’t see why adding in a couple leg and pulling exercises at the end of your workout (in say P1) would effect your progress as you’re primarily working different muscles.
I mean R1 includes everything, yet P1 and F1 are leaving things out. I donno, I guess it just goes against everything I’ve looked at before when large muscle groups are excluded from a workout routine, especially one that lasts 3 months.
But I’m not gonna argue and go against the program. I’ll just follow what you tell me to do, so I have no one but you to blame if I fail
(joking of course)
@madknight Ha ha…
The thing you’re missing here is that there is no single program on Earth that combines everything. Some may claim to, but there will always be something that gets done halfway.
We’d much rather you train pull-ups seriously than just throw them in while you’re working P1. The thing is, P1 will probably improve your pull-ups anyway, because there is a good bit of scapular depression in P1, and that’s a major factor that prevents most people from doing pull-ups. Adding pull-ups to P1 is going to be competing with aspects of P1 that we consider fundamental.
Nobody to date has ever complained that they got weak while following a GMB program. I’m willing to bet that you won’t either.
Doing a GMB program will never make you weak. Just because you don’t see your favorite exercise doens’t mean we don’t have you covered.
Totally agree guys. The thing about Swiss army knives is that they have a lot of tools but none of those tools are as good as a single dedicated tool for that purpose. Every time I’ve simplified my workouts and become more focused my results improved like crazy.
I actually had these same concerns when I was starting out GMB style (P1 was my first GMB program) I went back and forth on whether I was missing anything or wasn’t doing enough and I figured screw it, I’ll trust these guys figuring that even though I am astoundingly brilliant, they may know some stuff that I don’t (i.e. i don’t create/sell exercise programs for a living)
Turns out to have been a great decision.
@TheFitRebel Very nice.
The best thing about focus: you can always change your focus to something else and get great results on that too.
I think the problem people have with “missing stuff out” is due to the fact that each level takes 3 months. I’m about to finish a 3 month cycle of Rings next week and was then going to take a rest week before starting 3 months of P1 and that seems like a long time to be missing out pull ups for example. If the cycles were a month it wouldn’t seem so drastic (I’m not for a minute suggesting you make the cycles a month) but 3 months is quite a while. Also I think one of the reasons the Rings workouts are so appealing is that they obviously do work the whole body- back, chest, core and legs whereas P-bars and Floor are missing the pull up component and although the back is still being worked I’m not sure it’s to the same degree as in the Rings.
I was looking at the link you have to the Chase Armitage video last night and you can see how rounded that guy is- he seems to use all the skills all the time. I totally know he trains for several hours every day on top of superb genetics but I can also see how nice it would be to Shoulder stand and L-sit on the P-Bars, run through the F1 routine and then jump up onto your rings to skin the cat, even if it took a year to achieve.
The area I particularly look at is in the strength building in phase 1 of the programs. If I have just completed 3 months of Rings do I really need to go back to Knee push ups and Floor dips for P1? For a newbie I can see the point of it but now it just looks like repetition.
I must say I’m a great fan of your programs, they’ve given my training more structure and purpose than its had since I finished playing completive sport about 15 yrs ago plus I look and feel fantastic. But I also know how valuable my training time is and want to maximise it.
Hey, @Gilestro . I totally get where you’re coming from. I guess the difference is that we don’t think three months is a long time. I plan to train for a long, long time, so three months to build strength and skills is nothing to me.
A one-month cycle is fine for a fat-loss program, but it’s not adequate for building skill. As you say, your training time is valuable, so you should want to make sure all of your efforts are pointing towards the same goals.
Here’s the thing: you WILL NOT lose your pulling strength on P1 or F1. You just won’t. I have no idea where you are getting this idea from.
There is no “missing component” in our P-bar or floor programs. If something was missing, we would have added it – just like we did with the P1 Leg Module.
Every single program we produce will work your entire body.
Pull-ups are not the only exercise in the world to strengthen the back. If you perform P1 or F1 properly (especially the sits), you’ll be building strength and structure that will actually improve your pull-ups.
Nobody is saying you have to do knee push-ups if you can do them standard. If you have the strength to do the intermediate program, please do – that’s why we include it! But we do recommend beginning with the lowest level and moving up – a process we outline thoroughly in the training manuals – because the combined effect of the various exercises is greater than any single movement. Many people who try to jump ahead send us confused emails after their progress stalls. People who follow the programs properly don’t seem to have this problem.
Trust us – we actually know what we’re doing. We have no reason at all to create a program that will make you lose strength.
Do the basics. Focus in one goal and move a lot in your “normal” life. You can’t ride two horses in the same time. So, I agree.